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	<title>Comments on: Parking tickets and fines</title>
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	<description>Liberal Democrat MP for Hornsey and Wood Green</description>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 09:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parked in Muswell Hill on Saturday morning at 9am. Got a ticket at 9.03am. The signs say pay and display from 9.30 am. That is what people will look at. Above that sign there is a smaller sign that indicates no loading, stopping, waiting from 8-9.30. This seems deliberately signed to catch the innocent. I will shop elsewhere in future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parked in Muswell Hill on Saturday morning at 9am. Got a ticket at 9.03am. The signs say pay and display from 9.30 am. That is what people will look at. Above that sign there is a smaller sign that indicates no loading, stopping, waiting from 8-9.30. This seems deliberately signed to catch the innocent. I will shop elsewhere in future.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Porter</title>
		<link>http://www.lynnefeatherstone.org/2009/07/parking-tickets-and-fines.htm/comment-page-1#comment-2092</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Haringey council insist in extending the CPZ in the Fortis Green ward? This area is a significant distance from the tube station and is simply a tax on residents who live in the area. The CPZ falls under the remit of environmental policy of Haringey, but it simply a money making exercise. There has always been sufficient parking in this area for all the cars. Now you have empty roads where CPZ is enforced. This system has been badly thought out and is just a way to maintain Haringey&#039;s inept accounting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does Haringey council insist in extending the CPZ in the Fortis Green ward? This area is a significant distance from the tube station and is simply a tax on residents who live in the area. The CPZ falls under the remit of environmental policy of Haringey, but it simply a money making exercise. There has always been sufficient parking in this area for all the cars. Now you have empty roads where CPZ is enforced. This system has been badly thought out and is just a way to maintain Haringey&#39;s inept accounting.</p>
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		<title>By: dreamingspire</title>
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		<dc:creator>dreamingspire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that the parking enforcement problems of unfairness and errors are widespread, where are the LD proposals for resolving the problem? Not by centralising, please, but as just one outcome from proposing a way by which local government will become more responsible. The Fresh Start for Britain [1] doesn&#039;t help, glibly mentioning Building a Fair Society but with nothing about how to do that except mentions of fair taxation and the child&#039;s start in life. Jonathan Calder has twice been critical of Fresh Start under his Liberal Democrat topic [2] (and please read the comments there as well), but I find very little criticism at LD Voice - there ought to be a storm there. Nick writes glibly about decentralising, as others do, but that always seems to me to be ducking the real problem of an arrogant state that gives local authority officers the green light to do the same but more so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[1] http://www.freshstart.nickclegg.com&lt;br /&gt;[2] http://liberalengland.blogspot.com/search/label/Liberal%20Democrats</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that the parking enforcement problems of unfairness and errors are widespread, where are the LD proposals for resolving the problem? Not by centralising, please, but as just one outcome from proposing a way by which local government will become more responsible. The Fresh Start for Britain [1] doesn&#39;t help, glibly mentioning Building a Fair Society but with nothing about how to do that except mentions of fair taxation and the child&#39;s start in life. Jonathan Calder has twice been critical of Fresh Start under his Liberal Democrat topic [2] (and please read the comments there as well), but I find very little criticism at LD Voice &#8211; there ought to be a storm there. Nick writes glibly about decentralising, as others do, but that always seems to me to be ducking the real problem of an arrogant state that gives local authority officers the green light to do the same but more so.</p>
<p>[1] <a href="http://www.freshstart.nickclegg.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.freshstart.nickclegg.com</a><br />[2] <a href="http://liberalengland.blogspot.com/search/label/Liberal%20Democrats" rel="nofollow">http://liberalengland.blogspot.com/search/label/Liberal%20Democrats</a></p>
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		<title>By: Clive Carter</title>
		<link>http://www.lynnefeatherstone.org/2009/07/parking-tickets-and-fines.htm/comment-page-1#comment-2090</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes agree.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Parking fines are &lt;b&gt;out of proportion to the offence committed&lt;/b&gt;, especially when someone returns to their car a few minutes too late.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Parking fines also &lt;b&gt;lack relativity with fines levied for criminal acts&lt;/b&gt; such as violent affray. The latter would earn you a criminal record.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But consider how easily can one earn a £250 parking fine as compared with how much &lt;i&gt;violence&lt;/i&gt; would it take to earn a fine of the same £250?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes agree.</p>
<p>Parking fines are <b>out of proportion to the offence committed</b>, especially when someone returns to their car a few minutes too late.</p>
<p>Parking fines also <b>lack relativity with fines levied for criminal acts</b> such as violent affray. The latter would earn you a criminal record.</p>
<p>But consider how easily can one earn a £250 parking fine as compared with how much <i>violence</i> would it take to earn a fine of the same £250?</p>
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